It was 20 years ago next month that energy giant Enron — then the seventh-largest company in the U.S. — collapsed, resulting in historic layoffs and ravaging retirement savings accounts. We speak with Bethany McLean, a financial reporter who covered Enron for Fortune, about whether or not punishment for white-collar crime is still a real thing after all these years. There’s more to discuss regarding the Fed, and the upcoming holiday shopping season does not seem to mean good cheer for FedEx and other companies dealing with the national labor shortage.

Aired September 23, 2021

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